my very existence as a queer person is not ‘inappropriate’ for children thank you and goodnight
Alright. All this damned complaining about “ERMAGERD MAKE A BLERK WIDER MERVIE!!!!!!111!” i’ve finally had it with. Seriously, do you guys realize how terrible of a person Black Widow is? Do you have any clue? Probably not since many of you have only seen the movies where she’s the “good guy”.
A list of things Black Widow has done:
- Got Hawkeye thrown in a Maximum Security prison for shits and giggles basically
- Worked in SHIELD basically as an undercover spy for HYDRA
- Pretended to want to be in a relationship with Tony Stark to steal his technology
- Tried to trick Hawkeye into completing her assassination target when injured and he almost did if Spider Man hadn’t stopped him.
This is what i can remember as of right now, the point is Black Widow is not nearly as honorable of a person as the movies make her out to be. She is a manipulator who will stop at nothing, including manipulating and harming her teammates to get what she wants. Her only loyalties lay in herself.
I’m not saying not to make a female headed movie but why not try for Scarlet Witch? or Storm? Those both have far more honorable lives without loosing any of the inner strength they represent and have.
It sounds like you are basing half your interpretation on Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes? But haven’t seen all the episodes or something, because she threw Clint into that prison to protect him, and was also a spoilers: triple agent who was always working for SHIELD. The last thing is from an Untold Tales of Spider-Man issue, iirc, and yes, it is true Natasha did spin Clint into a super-villain career, before she defected from the KGB. The fallout is what pushed her to reform herself. It’s all there on the wiki.
But I don’t think any Natasha fan believes she’s never done bad things. The movies tell us this, over and over— a lot of fans want a Black Widow movie to see the awful crimson place she came from. Her story is about redemption and liberation and how who you choose to be means more than what you are made to do. Natasha has a supervillain skillset but heroic intentions and the tension between the two is part of why I like her. To say Natasha’s only loyalties are to herself is to ignore pretty much her entire 50 year comic history.
And, well, I’m kinda tired of hearing the only reason I want a Black Widow film is because I don’t know anything about other Marvel heroines and probably don’t know anything about Black Widow, either. Because I’m a massive Natasha fan, I know more about her, and that is how this thing usually works. I buy Storm’s comic every month because I like Ororo, too, because I’m actually able to appreciate female characters with diverse narratives and personalities instead of forcing them into some weird mental death match where only one can be good enough. I am okay with these life choices.
Look, people decide if they want to see a film all the time based on trailers, but fans who decide they want to see a Black Widow movie based on three whole films are secretly confused and need to be argued out of it. It’s just gatekeeping in another guise.
Daily reminder that MCU ‘verse is INDEPENDENT of all other Marvel universes, INCLUDING EMH, which is based on 616 (but not super faithful to 616 canon either). Basically fucking nothing that happened in EMH is canon for MCU.
But yeah, you know, continue ~educating us stupid Natasha fans~ on ~the facts~ about her ~character~.